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Wurlitzer 165 Organs at Lincoln Park & Griffith Park
By Dan Robinson

Both Matthew Caulfield and Glenn Thomas know more about this subject
than I do, since I never visited Griffith Park or Lincoln Park, but
contrary to Glenn's posting, I thought there was evidence that the
two Wurlitzer 165s had been switched.

Ron Bopp's book "The American Carousel Organ" has, on page 136, two
pictures of the same Wurlitzer 165.  The top photo is an overview and
the ribbon above the swell shutters says "Griffith Park."  The bottom
photo is a close-up of the center of the same organ (the one with the
standard 165 facade) but the ribbon says "Lincoln Park."

Also, there is a movie from 1986 called "Just Between Friends" which
has a scene at the Griffith Park carousel.  As the camera stays on the
actors riding the carousel, the organ with the 165 facade is clearly
visible going by in the background, rather than the one with the 157
facade.  I know that the organ with the 157 facade was delivered to
Griffith Park in 1939, but by the time of the 1986 movie, the one with
the 165 facade was there.

I had always thought that the organ spared from the Lincoln Park fire
in 1976 was the one with the 157 facade, sometime after it had moved
there from Griffith Park.  To add a third organ to the mix (!), the
Stinson 165 now at Griffith Park has a 157-style facade (like the
Wurlitzer delivered there in 1939), but I thought that the Wurlitzer
165 at Griffith Park into the 1980s was the one with the 165 facade.

I hope this conversation will continue so any discrepancies can be
cleared up.  Very little of this is my own first-hand knowledge;
in fact, the dates mentioned here were all before my lifetime (with
the exception of 1986)!


Dan Robinson
Rochester, New York

(Message sent Fri 7 Nov 2003, 23:30:02 GMT, from time zone GMT-0500.)

Key Words in Subject:  165, Griffith, Lincoln, Organs, Park, Wurlitzer

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