Thanks for the tip. On the Waltham I'm attempting to rebuild, we found a drill bit that would fit into the tube, then used a needle nose pliers to 'crush' the rubber -- the rubber in this case being so old and brittle it broke into small pieces or turned to powder. http://mtkraabel.home.comcast.net/~mtkraabel/PlayerPiano/images/Waltham_030.jpg I was quite satisfied with my method, but if the grandson is not available, I'll give gasoline a try next time. http://mtkraabel.home.comcast.net/~mtkraabel/PlayerPiano/images/Waltham_028.jpg Mark Kraabel